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sufficient force, that there might not be any injury done to patient or to attendants Q. By sufficient force you mean sufficient number of attendants? A. Number of attendants. Q. Was this Hill a state prison convict A. He was, and a very violent one, a dangerous one. Q. And that was the occasioned the only occasion of your reprimand? A. That was. Q. You didn't have any occasion or cause at that time to reprimand him for excessive violence to the patient at all A. No, sir. Q. From all you saw and all you (heard-- with lines through it) learned what was your conclusion as to whether he had used any excess of force upon the patient? A. I didn't calculate that he had used more force than was necessary. Q. For a single man to restrain him A. Yes sir. Q. But your point was he ought to have several crew A. Ought to have had more help so he could have done it more easily, without a scuffle.